tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2430710325284250743.post2602147529452272866..comments2023-07-05T09:38:50.097-04:00Comments on Pratt Songs: The Goo Goo Dolls: Dizzy Up the Girltaotechuckhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18275520227023393969noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2430710325284250743.post-3078014403629983382007-07-14T10:36:00.000-04:002007-07-14T10:36:00.000-04:00Wow... it's a shame you missed that one. Private s...Wow... it's a shame you missed that one. Private shows like that are almost always good, no matter who the band is. And I'd be willing to bet that GGD would've been great in that context, because they strike me as a band that doesn't take their success for granted. Kind of like Poison, supposedly. They may suck, but caring about your fans goes a long way.taotechuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18275520227023393969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2430710325284250743.post-10989809331470261782007-07-14T02:55:00.000-04:002007-07-14T02:55:00.000-04:00I love IRIS! Thanks for writing this post...I agr...I love IRIS! Thanks for writing this post...I agree with you. There are lots of songs like this one that are just not "cool" to admit to liking but this one just gets me every time. I kick myself because I turned down the opportunity to attend a private concert they did in March and would have got to meet them (and yes,I think Johnny Rezeznik is HOT).<BR/><BR/>P.S. to Bob, yeah I like Blink 182 alsoBar L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11100008292699584336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2430710325284250743.post-53192720262962652062007-07-14T00:49:00.000-04:002007-07-14T00:49:00.000-04:00So let me ask you this: Fleetwood Mac was a basic ...So let me ask you this: Fleetwood Mac was a basic blues-rock band until Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks joined. Then they became a commercial rock band, and a damned good one. Should they be penalized because they consciously decided to play in the genre of commercial rock? (Keep in mind, they didn't really experiment until <I>Tusk</I>, which is ambitious but arguably the weakest album from the Buckingham / Nicks / McVie / McVie / Fleetwood line-up.)<BR/><BR/>I'll trust you on Bad Religion, though their contribution to punk seems much more via their label than anything else, but you know the genre better than I do. Built to Spill, though, is a really good indie band, but I don't know that I'd call them defining. They found a niche amidst the Pavements and Yo La Tengos of the indie world, but I don't know how much new ground they actually paved. What they did do, though, was figure out where they fit in the musical landscape, and they carved out their little spot. Which is exactly what GGD did, particularly after they stopped trying to be the Replacements and accepted their fate as arena rockers.<BR/><BR/>I don't know, I'm just thinking aloud. Everything I'm saying might be bullshit, because I'm struggling with this whole concept of commercial rock being a genre. I've always thought of commercial rock as being the roots from which everything else (and everything interesting) grows.taotechuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18275520227023393969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2430710325284250743.post-71367647754759103532007-07-14T00:35:00.000-04:002007-07-14T00:35:00.000-04:00I understand your point, but you need to pick bett...I understand your point, but you need to pick better examples, because Bad Religion and Built to Spill had a role in defining their genres. The Goo Goo Dolls just did a good job of doing what others already did. I'm actually a good bit more forgiving of mainstream rock that you are, yet there is no case for the Goo Goo Dolls being an important band, with or without "Iris." Things designed for their commercial value are, by default, flawed. To the extent that pop-punk and emo are now designed for money-making, you are correct. Better examples would be Blink 182 and Hawthorne Heights.bob_vinylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08414008312753058491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2430710325284250743.post-33705462424298496242007-07-14T00:05:00.000-04:002007-07-14T00:05:00.000-04:00I'd wondered that too, but by the time a style of ...I'd wondered that too, but by the time a style of music has become defined enough to become a genre, the bands in that genre are, by default, somewhat generic. Why is being a mainstream rock band any more generic than being a pop-punk band, or an emo band, or a garage rock band? I think a lot of it is simply because the rock snobs and the indie kids poo-poo mainstream rock. My guess is that Goo Goo Dolls are no more generic than Bad Religion or Built to Spill, they're just playing a slightly different game.taotechuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18275520227023393969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2430710325284250743.post-10918132759316618562007-07-13T22:39:00.000-04:002007-07-13T22:39:00.000-04:00I consider 4/5 to be best of genre and this is sur...I consider 4/5 to be best of genre and this is surely best of genre. I just wonder if there is a penalty when the genre is generic rock.bob_vinylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08414008312753058491noreply@blogger.com